the kinds of people who vote dutifully all the time, and then they faced a democratic party which was armed with a larger electorate of people who voted this time more for the president, younger people, minorities, women winning with 53%. it seems like their whole model was based on a very low turnout of voters. >> that is exactly how, in fact, they lost. but let me also tell you, chris, you have got to look at how the obama team, which clearly was a superior operation when it comes to politics, they took the model that's been used in cities all around the country, and that is go to people who have not voted before. go to people who are not campaigned to before and see if you can't convince them to become a party of the body politic. they're never going to be polled by anybody. if you can put them, you will have a hidden treasure of people who want to vote. and that's what happened this time. and the republicans suppressing the vote. that business that you described about the poll tax and all the other kinds of means by which you suppress poll, that happened in 40 or 50 states, and it was all republicans and republican control. that made democrats really angry, and in particular it made african-american democrats in cleveland and in cincinnati and in columbus and in akron and toledo really mad, and that anger caused them to stand in line for hours to be able to cast their vote.